The Difference: Nonprofit Fundraising in a For-Profit World

Beyond the Gala

Jay Werth, Host

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Are fundraising galas truly worth the investment, or are they being misunderstood?

In this episode of The Difference, a podcast from Convergent, Host Jay Werth sits down with Justin Goodhew, CEO and Co-founder of Trellis, to unpack how nonprofits can rethink events as more than one-night fundraisers. With experience helping over 500 organizations raise more than $100 million, Justin brings a data-driven perspective to one of the sector’s most debated strategies.

The conversation challenges a common assumption: that events should be judged by immediate net profit. Instead, Justin reframes them as “moments of belonging”, powerful opportunities to build long-term donor relationships and unlock future revenue.

Together, they explore:

  • Why traditional ROI metrics fail to capture the full value of events
  • Where “hidden revenue” lives beyond the night of the gala
  • How events create uniquely human connections in an increasingly algorithm-driven world
  • The most overlooked data points nonprofits should be tracking and how to capture them without sophisticated tools
  • Practical tactics like “Donate Your Bid” and multiple giving drivers to increase engagement without creating donor fatigue
  • How to reduce friction in the giving experience and avoid leaving money on the table

The episode also dives into post-event strategy, including the critical follow-up window and how to turn one-time attendees into lifelong advocates.

Plus, a rapid-fire lightning round covering:

  • Galas vs. golf tournaments for long-term ROI
  • The biggest “revenue leak” at nonprofit events
  • The one data point every fundraiser should sync to their CRM
  • And what the future of fundraising really looks like

Justin makes a compelling case that the organizations best positioned for long-term resilience are those that create meaningful opportunities for people to gather, connect, and belong.

To learn more and access additional resources, visit convergentnonprofit.com.

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